It’s The Same

I am so outraged by people right now. I’ve seen many posts on the internet about people being harassed by such small minded people. Just because Trump won the election does not by any means make it okay to show such hate to others. Violence and disrespect will not prove anything! Stories of people having their religious ornaments like the hijab being ripped from them and being threatened because of their faiths is unacceptable! I am not a religious person but it is the same damn thing as someone saying a Catholic person cannot  wear their cross or any other religious group having any of their ornaments. (I say Catholic because it is a prevalent religious group in my area.) I cannot believe this is happening in a country that was founded on religious freedom! Acts like this go beyond a person’s freedom of speech. It’s inexcusable. I don’t care what religion you are or what sexual preference or what race you are if some harassment of this kind happens to you do not stand for it! Make it public. I know it is scary to call the police because you don’t know what reaction you will receive but I know there are others out there like myself you are sickened that this is happening to people in this country.

If you are really going to hate people because of their faith then maybe look in the mirror. Even if you are like me and have no religion you have a right to that! Same as the people being harassed and persecuted right now! Things like this have happened before and you know what happened as a result of these prejudges? Genocide and war. I am sure no one wants there to be a Civil War again. I get it, you want change and that’s understandable. But this is not the way to get it. A lot of people are scared of what they don’t understand, don’t be scared to learn from your fear. Learn about what you are scared of and realize that not every aspect of something you don’t understand is evil or threatening. In a time of knowledge being at your fingertips there is no excuse for people to remain ignorant. Do the research and live better because of it. Not every person is evil, they are just trying to survive just like everyone else.

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Perspective

Recently I’ve had a memory from my childhood continuously float back to the top. It’s a memory from when I was a young teenager going to a Mormon camp. I know what you’re wondering, yes this is a post about religion and no this is neither a bash nor a recommendation for any religion. As it is titled this is my perspective of my experience.

So now back to my memory. I don’t even remember how old I was at this time, maybe 13 or 14. The adults that were in charge of us had all of the kids in my group be blindfolded and they told us to hold on to a rope that would lead us through the forest to safety. They also gave us all an egg to hold on to and to “keep safe” to represent something special.

So as a young teenager I was asked to go through a forest blindfold hold this egg, being guided by a rope tied by strangers. At the time it didn’t seem odd but I had never questioned my existence or my beliefs that I had been told all my life were true and right. During my turn on the course a one point someone, I still have no idea if it was another camper or if it was one if the leaders, pushed me and told me to move. So I let go of the rope and let them pass. Just as a side note for everyone I am a super clumsy person so this was a difficult challenge already for me. But you know what happened when I let go of the rope? Absolutely nothing. I just stood there listening to the birds chirping. After a few moments I grabbed the rope again and found my way to the end of the course.

Anyway, my recent ponderings of this experience has brought me to the conclusion that yes the leaders of the camp were trying to show us that they’re religion, being Mormon, would lead us through life safely. What I learned from all of my experiences in that church is life is life whether you are religious or not. Just because you are religious doesn’t mean bad things aren’t going to happen. I also learned that people won’t be better because of their religious beliefs either. Some of the best people I’ve met aren’t religious. Some if the worst have been.

Don’t let your perspective be blinded by what you’ve been told is true. Be open minded.

Researched!

Okay, so I started working on this research earlier and I wasn’t able to finish reading stuff till now. I’ve actually only researched the Mountain Meadows Massacre. But even that has been enough to totally change the tone of this post. I meant for this to be a neutral post, but it may not be that way…Sorry…

So Mountain Meadows Massacre, really just awful nasty stuff. I found an article about it that seemed to be neutral with actual accounts from people who experienced it. Here’s what I thought summed it all up fairly well.

“The Massacre
By September 11, Legion officers had devised a plan for ending the stand-off.  Most of the Paiutes had left after growing weary of the siege and could play no role in the bloody conclusion.  The plan was devious, but effective.  Major John Higbee, in command of the forces at Mountain Meadows, persuaded John Lee and William Bateman to act as decoys to draw the emigrants out from the protection of their wagons.  Lee and Bateman, carrying a white flag, marched across the field to the emigrants’ camp.  The desperate emigrants agreed to the terms promised by Lee: They would give up their arms, wagons, and cattle, in return for promise that they would not be harmed as they embarked on a 35-mile hike back to Cedar City.  Samuel McMurdy, a member of the Nauvoo Legion, took the reigns of one of the wagons into which were loaded some of the youngest children.  A woman and a few seriously injured emigrant men were loaded into a second wagon.  John Lee positioned himself between the two wagons as they pulled out.  Following the two wagons, the women and the older children of the Fancher party walked behind.  After the wagons had moved on, Higbee ordered the emigrant men to begin walking in single file.  An armed Mormon “guard” escorted each emigrant man.

When the escorted men had fallen a quarter mile or so behind the women and children, who had just crested a small hill, Higbee yelled, “Halt!  Do your duty!”  Each of the Mormon men shot and killed the emigrant at his side.  Meanwhile, on the other side of the hill, Nelphi Johnson shouted the order to begin the slaughter of the women and older children.  Men rushed at the defenseless emigrants from both sides, and the killing went on amidst “hideous, demon-like yells.”   Nancy Huff, four years old at the time of the massacre, later remembered the horror: “I saw my mother shot in the forehead and fall dead.  The women and children screamed and clung together.  Some of the young women begged the assassins after they run out on us not to kill them, but they had no mercy on them, clubbing their guns and beating out their brains.” It was over in just a few minutes.  120 members of the Fancher party were dead.  The youngest children, seventeen or eighteen in all, were gathered up, to later be placed in Mormon homes.  None of the survivors was over seven years old.”

They killed everyone! Except the youngest children that were under 8 years old, who were then put, against they will mind you, into Mormon homes to be raised. That is terrifying! and not that long ago! So when someone who is Mormon is saying they’re being persecuted remind them of this!

This article also talks about polygamy and Brigham teaching blood atonement. Polygamy, as I was told when I was growing up as a Mormon teenager, was to help support the women and families of men who had been killed due to persecution. I don’t know if that’s the real reason or not. I’ve known a lot of Mormon people who have gotten married just to have sex. So not sure on that one. I do believe that Brigham Young was racist. That’s an easy bet…I mean it was the 1800’s.

All I can say at this point is the guy who posted the original post that I have been researching either knew a lot more than most Mormons or did a lot more research than I am whiling to do. My conclusion is decided for yourself. I can only go off what I have experienced, which has not been good on any level.

I welcome CIVIL discussions on this subject. Though if I do get any negative or hateful comments they will be deleted.

I Need To Do Some Research!

I found this on Facebook this morning and thought it was brilliant. However there are things mentioned here that I don’t even know about and I was raised Mormon. So I am going to do some research and bring you all a little insight on what this guy is talking about. I found it quite interesting. Enjoy!

“I just don’t understand how all the Mormons think they’re getting persecuted right now. You DID just call married same-sex couples apostates. You DID just ban their kids from joining your church. You have taken the action. The criticism you’re getting is a reaction.

FAIR WARNING, IF YOU ALREADY DON’T LIKE THE TONE OF MY WRITING, PLEASE TRUST ME WHEN I TELL YOU THAT YOU DON’T WANT TO CONTINUE. IT’S FOR THE BEST.

When we criticize your church it’s not because we hate you, it’s because we hate what the church has just done. The criticism is because we feel that these things are wrong, it’s not some personal vendetta against members.

We don’t bring up:
banning the kids of same sex couples,
or Joseph’s 14 year old brides,
or Joseph’s 32 other wives (two different mother-daughter pairs and 6 women married to other men, oh my!)
or Brigham speaking as a man not a prophet when he banned black people from heaven and temple blessings,
or that the next 9 prophets didn’t change that policy (don’t forget, not inspired policy, just Brigham’s personal racism),
or the mountain meadows massacre,
or the salamander letter,
or the at least 4 differing accounts of the first vision,
or the mistakes in the book of mormon,
or the changes in the book of mormon,
or the horses, sheep, steel, etc; in the America’s before Columbus
or the book of mormon witnesses only seeing the gold plates with their spiritual eyes rather than actually seeing them,
or the signatures of the witnesses being signed by someone else,
or Joseph’s guilty conviction of treasure digging with seer stones,
or the burning of the Nauvoo Expositor,
or Joseph and Hyrum’s guns that they had in Carthage jail,
or the lack of archaeological or DNA evidence,
or financial secrecy and giant for profit ventures of the church,
or Joseph’s personal fondness of alcohol,
or Brigham using his position as prophet to drive competitors out of business,
or changing tithing from being 10% of one’s EXCESS to 10% of one’s INCOME,
or the prophet lying on 60 minutes,
or the September Six,
or Brigham teaching blood atonement,
or Brigham teaching the Adam-God doctrine,
or the incorrect translation of the book of Abraham,
or the kinderhook plates,
or the seer stone in the hat,
or any other questions;
…we don’t bring them up because we’re hateful. We bring them up because it seems like the church has been wrong, dishonest, and hurtful. If you have nothing to hide there shouldn’t be any hard questions. If you have the truth, then there shouldn’t be any hard questions. If you are worthy of the trust you ask for, then there shouldn’t be any hard questions.”

Some Seriousness

Okay maybe not really that serious. I was driving to work this morning and a Macklemore song came on. I don’t remember exactly which song it was but it was about religion. Something along the lines of how a book written so long ago has been misinterpreted by so many people. I am not writing this to insult anyone’s religious beliefs or to say one is better than another. But personally I am not religious at all. Maybe the Christians are right, maybe someone else is. My belief is very simple; live your life as you see fit. If that means you’re a super dick to everyone so be it. If you’re a person like me that beliefs this then you probably also belief in something like karma. Help and treat people how you would like to treated. Super simple.
But aside from that there’s always the question of what is after this life. Honestly, and maybe it’s because I am young, but why worry about that? If there’s something after this then live life so you’re happy with how you are. Maybe more later. Here’s some music for you.

-The Rogue

A Little Controversial

I am feeling brave today so why not post something with a little passion?
I’ll just make a list, I want to see how many things I can come up with.
1. Gay Marriage. Huge topic these days (or at least that how Facebook makes it look…) I am pro. In the words of Macklemore, “When everyone else is more comfortable remaining voiceless Rather than fighting for humans that have had their rights stolen I might not be the same, but that’s not important No freedom ’til we’re equal, damn right I support it.” (I love Macklemore. I really love underground, self producing artists like Macklemore, Mac Lethal and Watsky. If you’ve never heard of these guys go to youtube immediately! Please.) It seems like such a stupid thing to fight over. Who cares who or what an adult chooses to love. When it’s behind closed doors it doesn’t matter what 2 consenting adults do.
2. Abortion. Being raised very religious this topic scares the hell out of me. I am pro choice but I don’t like to think of it as an alternative to birth control or condoms or any other mainstream antipregnant choices. (I am pretty sure antipregnant isn’t a word, but you know what I mean.) The main reason I support freedom of choice is I am a young woman and if I were to become pregnant I know for a fact I am not ready for a baby. And yes I understand that there are alternatives like adoption, but do you have any idea what childbirth does to the human body? Yes, it sounds selfish but I’ll definitely pass on that. Plus if you catch a pregnancy in the very early stages you’re only getting a clump of organic cells, like a cyst or a tumor. Sorry bad analogy but pretty much the same thing.
3. Legalization of Marijuana. Again pro. There are way too many medical applications for it to not legalize. And plus look at how Colorado did it Continue reading